Friday 11 July 2008

Lou Smit vs. Steve Thomas

tiny dancer
Jul 11, 3:52 am

Newsgroups: alt.true-crime
From: "tiny dancer"
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 03:52:18 -0400
Local: Fri, Jul 11 2008 3:52 am
Subject: Lou Smit vs. Steve Thomas & the bungling Boulder P.D.

I'll take Lou Smits evidence and investigative abilities any day over Steve
Thomas, who had never investigated a homicide in his life. Smit has
consistently had a 90 % plus record in solving cases over his lengthy
career.

Smit draws some support
Boulder's police chief still skeptical on intruder theory
By Todd Hartman, News Staff Writer
May 4, 2001


A handful of veteran Colorado law enforcement and legal figures are rallying
behind retired detective Lou Smit's belief that an intruder likely killed
JonBenet Ramsey.
They say Smit's views were dismissed by inexperienced Boulder investigators
who became so fixated on the Ramseys early in the case that they put more
energy into explaining away evidence pointing to an intruder than following
clues wherever they might lead.


"When I saw Lou's presentation, I was stunned, and frankly I was outraged by
the course this case has taken," said Greg Walta, the state's chief public
defender from 1978 to 1982 and an attorney who has both battled and
represented Smit in the courtroom.
"What concerns me isn't just that the Ramseys have been crucified," said El
Paso County Sheriff John Anderson, "it's that a killer is still at large.
I'm convinced of it."


"Lou Smit is the most ethical professional I've ever met," (Bob)
Russel (Smit's lawyer) said.


Smit's attorney, Russel, is a former district attorney in El Paso County who
held the office for two decades and was involved in some of the earliest
efforts to educate district attorneys nationally about child abuse.


Throughout his career, Russel said, he has never heard of another case in
which a parent garroted a child.
"When I first saw (Smit's presentation), this alone told me it could not
have been the parents," Russel said.
"(The parent) would have to start turning (the garrote) while the child is
grasping," Russel said. "There's probably tape over her mouth. She's alive
and squirming.
"That's sadistic intent. That's not the irrational anger you see in child
abuse."


El Paso Sheriff Anderson hired Smit to run the county's detective operation
after being elected in 1994. He calls Smit a "phenomenally gifted,
experienced, uniquely qualified violent crime detective," and supports him
in taking the intruder evidence public, a move typically frowned upon by law
enforcement.


This case is different, Anderson said, because a predator may be on the
loose and Boulder law enforcement isn't pursuing him. He calls Smit's
actions "very responsible."


Other supporters of Smit include Arapahoe County Coroner Michael Doberson,
who, like Smit, contends that a stun gun was used on JonBenet, and that the
blow to her head likely came just before death -- not long before as one
police theory suggests.


Steve Ainsworth, a Boulder County Sheriff's detective, and Trip DeMuth a
former assistant district attorney in Boulder, spoke on Smit's behalf on the
Today Show.
While declining to take a specific position on the JonBenet case, DeMuth
told the News that Smit "should be taken seriously." He called him the most
experienced investigator who worked the case.


"It's not only the fact that he has a tremendous amount of experience,"
DeMuth said. "He was amazingly successful in previous investigations. He has
probably a higher success rate than anyone else I know of."


"The world thinks the Ramseys did it," Smit said. "But if I'm right, there's
a very dangerous killer out there and no one's looking for the SOB."


Post #9 of the day

An Interesting Realization

I find it interesting that the gentleman mentioned below in our missing person report, Steven Thomas, had founded a Boulder, Colorado based web security software company, and had become distraught and SUPPOSEDLY paranoid and then, ended up missing just before the breaking news in the JonBenet Ramsey case of John and Patsy Ramsey's widespread new found innocence. And that is my commentary. -SDRoads


Post #8 of the day

Have You Seen This Man?



Steven Thomas, missing since June 30th, 2008

Police need your help finding a man reported missing since June 30.

Steven Thomas, 36, of Lanikai was last seen at a Waikiki hotel.

Thomas is 6 foot 2 inches, 180 pounds, with blonde hair and blue eyes.

If you see him or know of his whereabouts, please call CrimeStoppers at 955-8300.


The well-known founder of Webroot — a multi-million dollar, Boulder-based software company — has been missing in Hawaii for more than a week, and his family fears for his life.

Post #7 of the day

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http://www.dailycamera.com/news/2008/jul/09/boulder-millionaire-software-founder-missing/

http://kgmb9.com/main/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=8017&Itemid=76

In All Fairness



Former Suspect John Mark Karr on the Ramsey Clearing


This is a rush transcript from "On the Record ," July 9, 2008. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

GRETA VAN SUSTEREN, FOX NEWS HOST: Now, the last time the JonBenet Ramsey case shocked the headlines, it was thanks to John Mark Karr. Now, John Mark Karr was arrested in August of 2006 in Thailand after confessing to JonBenet's murder, and this was amid a spectacular media frenzy, including TV cameras on board his flight to the United States. The Boulder DA had flown John Mark Karr back to the U.S. and Karr was eventually released after his DNA did not match DNA found at the crime scene. John Mark Karr joins us live.

Nice to see you, John Mark.

JOHN MARK KARR, FORMER SUSPECT IN JONBENET RAMSEY MURDER: Nice to see you, Greta. Thanks for having me.

VAN SUSTEREN: So what do you think about today's announcement that -- a formal letter to John Ramsey that his family has been cleared?

KARR: Very pleased. I think that it should have been something that should have been done almost 12 years ago, and certainly two years ago, when I was arrested. But I'm extremely pleased that someone like District Attorney Lacy would acknowledge once and for all that this family and any members of this family is not responsible for their daughter's death, and their sister's death. It's just this should have happened a long time ago. I'm very pleased with that. It's a wonderful day that we can acknowledge that this family is innocent. They're wonderful people and they should never have suffered like they did.


VAN SUSTEREN: You know, John Mark, you and I have had an unusual -- we've done interviews a couple of times, and you know, it's always been sort of unusual in that I keep telling you I don't think you did it, but you keep dropping hints that you're the one who did do it. Now, your DNA wasn't found at the scene. That doesn't necessarily mean anything. But did you murder her?

KARR: Well, I'm not here to answer questions like that. I've already answered that question over and over, and I don't rescind anything that I've said in the past.

VAN SUSTEREN: But you've never said yes or no to me. I've never gotten a yes or a no out of you. And I just sort of want to -- you know, if I can just figure it out because that'll give me at least some sort of direction where I should go with the next question.

KARR: Well, you know, I don't think that's a yes or no question, Greta. If it was, then I would say yes or no. I don't think that I've said yes or no in 2006, did I?

VAN SUSTEREN: I -- certainly not to me.

KARR: And I don't think that I ever have.

VAN SUSTEREN: Can you explain -- most people deny crimes when they're accused of them, you know, innocent and guilty ones. A lot of them deny it. You don't deny it, though, do you?

KARR: That's -- I don't think that's true that most people deny things that they've done, that they take responsibility for. There are a lot of people who take responsibility for their past actions. That's not true that most people deny things. If a person takes that responsibility, then that's what they do. I'm not the only person who's taken responsibility for my actions.

VAN SUSTEREN: Do you think that the D.A. should arrest you?

KARR: I think the D.A. already arrested me.

VAN SUSTEREN: Again?

KARR: And I think that...

VAN SUSTEREN: Do you think she should again?

KARR: I think that the DA needs to do what they feel is right. I'm not here to talk about -- you know, I think the news today is that the Ramsey family has been granted at least some degree of closure, not complete closure at all, but I think that it's very important that someone like Mary Lacy, who is the district attorney in Boulder, would acknowledge that they are innocent.

VAN SUSTEREN: Is the reason...

KARR: It should have been done a long time ago. That's what the news was today. The news today has nothing to do with DNA. The news today is that there is someone in Boulder, Colorado, named Mary Lacy who's a district attorney who finally, after almost 12 years, acknowledges that this family is innocent.

VAN SUSTEREN: Is the reason, John Mark...

KARR: And they are and they always have been.

VAN SUSTEREN: Is the reason, John Mark, that you were arrested is because you had written something to someone indicating intimate knowledge about something with the crime that nobody else knew except for the person who did it? Is that what got you arrested?

KARR: Yes, that's my understanding. Absolutely.

VAN SUSTEREN: Well, now, that's odd. I mean, it's odd that you would have this intimate knowledge. It's odd that your DNA is not there. It's odd that you won't say yes or no. I mean, there are a lot of -- I mean, this is a very peculiar situation with you.

KARR: I just think that there's a time and a place to say yes and no, and I don't think that that question -- first of all, I think it's a -- it's a very -- it's a question that doesn't have a yes or no answer. I answered as best I could in 2006 in front of probably 150 cameras.

VAN SUSTEREN: Indeed, there were a lot of cameras.

KARR: I don't see any reason that I have to do that again because I'm telling you I'm not rescinding what I said. But I think the important thing here is that this is a process, and whatever process the district attorney sees appropriate to take, then that's what they're going to take.

VAN SUSTEREN: All right. John Mark Karr, thank you for joining us, and good luck. And it's always nice to see you. Glad you came back. And sooner or later, this case will be solved. Thank you, John Mark.

KARR: Thank you.


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,379682,00.html
(Keep wathching. There is more than one video here. There is a great video on fighting skin cancer, along with a video of a man whom felt he was being tormented and hunted, Millionaire software developer, Steven Thomas. -SD)

Post #6 of the day

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*~Thanxx for sending me this article, XXXXX. -SD~*

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For My JillianJon




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Post #3 of the day

I just can't seem to do it today.


I just can't seem to focus on the news right now. I still have so much I wanted to report on... The stories just lay in my notebook... I am so drained... and inspired at the same time. -SDRoads


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